As we are mired in the current pandemic many of us are being pulled back away from our social and sexual mindsets. While we are concerned about our jobs, our children, our families and our health, we need to be deliberate to ensure our relationships and our sexuality are a priority! In this episode, we discuss the difficulty of resolving the tension between who we are wired to be as humans and who we are trained to be by society.
Mr. Jones 0:01
This podcast contains explicit language and content and is for mature audiences only.
Mrs. Jones 0:06
Hey, you teenagers out there, if you’re under 18 this show is more for your parents. So now that you have that mental picture stuck in your head, put some music on and get back to doing your homework.
Mr. Jones 0:17
We are a longtime married couple who’s decided to chronicle our personal adventures and share our sex positive discussions as we navigate our way through the swinging lifestyle.
Mrs. Jones 0:27
Care to join us? [Music]
Mr. Jones 0:47
Hello, everyone, I’m Mr. Jones.
Mrs. Jones 0:48
And I’m Mrs. Jones, and we want to welcome you to Episode 76 of the We Gotta Thing podcast.
Mr. Jones 0:53 This title’s all yours.
Mrs. Jones 0:54
[Laughs] It’s a mouthfull. Well, tonight we wanted to talk about how to acknowledge all facets of yourself. So our title is Be Authentic – Acknowledge All Facets of You.
Mr. Jones 1:10
Okay. I guess you’re gonna explain this later.
Mrs. Jones 1:14
Well, yeah, we’re in the middle of a pandemic and I think our priorities have changed and our balance could possibly be a little out of balance. Yeah. Yeah. So we’re gonna talk about that tonight.
Mr. Jones 1:32
We were supposed to talk about STIs. Our past two episodes were on health and we said we were going to do this month on STIs, but this topic seems to be more timely and relevant.
Mrs. Jones 1:44
Because of stupid pandemic is still going strong.
Mr. Jones 1:47
So we haven’t forgotten…
Mrs. Jones 1:48
We keep thinking, oh, this is the last month we’re gonna be like, right you know, under stay at home orders and wearing masks and this and that. And I think we’re in this for the long haul.
Mr. Jones 1:59
Well, there’s no sense in talking about STIs when nobody’s playing now. When things get back to normal it’ll be more appropriate.
Mrs. Jones 2:08
I know. So the STI test you had back in March probably still applies at this point. Which is a good thing, I guess. But yeah.
Mr. Jones 2:18
Yeah. So there’s not a lot… We were hoping last month that we will be able to say this month that we got back out and did some stuff but it’s all been still just virtual.
Mrs. Jones 2:28
Yeah, it has been, except for the fact that our guest bedroom bed is full of stuff I’m actually packing.
Mr. Jones 2:38
Yes. Yeah, I finally highly encouraged Mrs. Jones to book us a few days at the beach.
Mrs. Jones 2:46
As in you bullied me.
Mr. Jones 2:47 Yeah.
Mrs. Jones 2:49
Yeah. So we’re gonna go to the beach on Saturday, two days from now. And just you and me. And we have a condo on the beach. I’m probably probably going to be extremely antisocial. But we’ll be at the beach, we’ll be at our happy place. We’re going to work from our condo and go hang out on the beach, hopefully socially distance from everybody else. And no, we’re not going to go bar hopping though.
Mr. Jones 3:16
No, we’re going to bring booze with us. Mrs. Jones 3:19
Yeah, it’s gonna be a different kind of trip for us. But it’s gonna be fun.
Mr. Jones 3:24
The restaurants are open outside, we’ll be able to eat outside. I don’t think it’s gonna be too much different.
Mrs. Jones 3:29
And that’s because our nest is still not empty. And it’s not gonna be empty for a while.
Mr. Jones 3:35 Yeah.
Mrs. Jones 3:35
So we are definitely escaping reality.
Mr. Jones 3:38
Well, that’s why, because, and we’ll talk more about this in a second, but everybody’s situation has changed. Or at least been put on pause over the past few months and ours has changed in a way that we’ve had, March, let’s see, April…
Mrs. Jones 3:52
It’s gonna be six months.
Mr. Jones 3:54
It’s been three months that they’ve been with us
Mrs. Jones 3:57
And we’re halfway there.
Mr. Jones 4:00
Lord, help me. You all that have kids probably don’t have any sympathy for us. But we’ve been – You don’t understand.
Mrs. Jones 4:09
You don’t understand.
Mr. Jones 4:10
We, we’ve been out of practice. And at my age I get – as much as I love having them here at a certain time of the day. I just, I’m going downstairs. I’ve got to get away from this.
Mrs. Jones 4:22
It usually has something to do with some sort of game after dinner.
Mr. Jones 4:26 Yeah, [unintelligible].
Mrs. Jones 4:27
You get nasty. You’re nasty.
Mr. Jones 4:29
Ah, well, you know, all games are dumb. I don’t like playing games. Even with my granddaughter. Especially when she wups me.
Mrs. Jones 4:40
Oh, boy. Well see. So, like, okay, so tonight. Okay, well, we grilled out tonight. It was a nice day. So we – you had a beer while you were grilling and I decided you shouldn’t drink alone. So I had one with you. And then we had wine with dinner. And then we came downstairs to kind of go over our outline and we weren’t drinking anything and I’m like, Mr. Jones I I don’t think I can record without a drink so I went upstairs and I made myself like…
Mr. Jones 5:08 A legit drink.
Mrs. Jones 5:09
For real, like I’m drinking bourbon. I know that’s a shocker to a lot of you guys out there that know my tastes in liquor, but I’m drinking a bourbon drink.
Mr. Jones 5:19
It doesn’t look like a bourbon drink.
Mrs. Jones 5:20
It’s a paper plane. So it’s bourbon and Aperol and something else and lemon juice, and it’s really tasty. And what are you drinking
Mr. Jones 5:31 Water.
Mrs. Jones 5:32
Costco water. [Laughs] What’s wrong with you Mr. Jones?
Mr. Jones 5:39
We have had some excitement in our lives. If you remember a few months ago how excited Mrs. Jones got when we bought a new dishwasher?
Mrs. Jones 5:49 Oh yeah.
Mr. Jones 5:50
We just bought a new washer and dryer.
Mrs. Jones 5:52
I know. We got the dreaded error code on our dryer that basically said replace the board and then when we started looking at the price of the board, the circuit board, we were just like…
Mr. Jones 6:02
Well, but the… the washer still works. But the washer was how many years old?
Mrs. Jones 6:06
The dryer was only like 10 years old. The washer was 20. Yeah. So we got a new washer and dryer.
Mr. Jones 6:14
Yes, …and we paid extra to have the dudes install them. So I wouldn’t have to install them. And the second day we had the washer and dryer, I walked into the bedroom and all of a sudden, here’s the big difference that I noticed. You would only do laundry when I absolutely ran out of underwear, and I started complaining. Now since we’ve had this new washer and dryer, I think you’ve done laundry like three times a week.
Mrs. Jones 6:44
No, I do it once a week silly.
Mr. Jones 6:47
Okay, well it must have been once a month before because…
Mrs. Jones 6:50
It was every couple weeks.
Mr. Jones 6:52
But I walked into the bedroom the other day and you walked out of your bathroom and you said, honey, have I told you lately how much I love my new dryer? And for a moment there, until you got to the end of that sentence, I thought you were talking about me.
Mrs. Jones 7:09
Well, you bought it for me. I mean, it gets the clothes dry like the old dryer wasn’t drying the clothes.
Mr. Jones 7:18
And then the other night you were – you said, I can’t believe how big this thing is. I can’t get over it. And I said, what are you talking about? And you said, this washing machine.
Mrs. Jones 7:28
I know, like, I wasn’t talking about your dick. I’m sorry.
Mr. Jones 7:32
I know. Anyway, you do have a thing for appliances.
Mrs. Jones 7:35
I do. It’s very easy to make me happy.
Mr. Jones 7:38
Yeah, so that was exciting.
Mrs. Jones 7:40
In the middle of a pandemic, that was way exciting.
Mr. Jones 7:42
A little bit of exciting sexual stuff was that in our We Gotta Thing private community, we have a men’s only group. And we did a chat and we invited Mickey from Casual Swinger to come into our men’s chat. We had almost 40 guys.
Mrs. Jones 8:00
It was a Zoom meeting, right?
Mr. Jones 8:01
It was a Zoom meeting one night, and we wanted to talk about men’s sex toys. So, since Mickey and Mallory have Casual Toys, and you can find them on our website, I invited him to come talk about men’s sex toys, and we just – he didn’t come in to sell toys, he came in to talk about, like, the stigma behind why men are ashamed to masturbate and why men don’t talk a lot about sex toys like women do. And it was a really, really good conversation and a lot of guys learned a whole lot of stuff. So I have a new toy to bring to the beach with us.
Mrs. Jones 8:40
Awesome. All right. I do have a huge bag full of toys, but I can make room for one more.
Mr. Jones 8:47
Yeah. It’s called a vibrating stroker. I haven’t figured it out yet. Supposedly, we can both use it at the same time.
Mrs. Jones 8:58
How – I’m trying to wrap my head around that one. Mr. Jones 9:02
Well, I’ll have to show you the pictures.
Mrs. Jones 9:04
All right. We’ll report back next time. On the vibrating stroker.
Mr. Jones 9:09
Yeah. So hopefully next week, you know, but we’ve been pushing our plans back like a month at a time. And we do have some plans in July that I don’t think we’re going to cancel.
Mrs. Jones 9:20
Yeah, I mean, thank goodness for Southwest Airlines where they don’t have any change fees because, yeah, we’ve been switching stuff around, but yeah, I have these airline tickets purchased and I’m not going to change them dammit.
Mr. Jones 9:32
No, we’re not gonna change em.
Mrs. Jones 9:33 Yeah.
Mr. Jones 9:34
So we do have a weekend trip planned in July with some friends that we haven’t seen in a long
time. We still are hoping to be able to go to D esire, August the sixth through the 12th. Desire
Pearl. So if you’re gonna be there, give us a holler.
Mrs. Jones 9:48
I did get an email from Desire today and they said that Pearl is still on target to officially open on July 1. So fingers crossed.
Mr. Jones 10:00
Yes. And for those of you who are confused about the border being closed,
Mrs. Jones 10:04
Are you talking to me? Cuz I was confused.
Mr. Jones 10:07
Yes, the border is closed between the US and Mexico, but the airport is open.
Mrs. Jones 10:11
Right. So I guess when the borders are closed, they’re just talking about people driving across. So you can still fly in?
Mr. Jones 10:19
Mrs. Jones 10:20 Okay. So we’ll see.
Mr. Jones 10:22 As of today.
Mrs. Jones 10:24
Yeah. Again, we’ll report back after August 6.
Mr. Jones 10:29
Yeah. So when we come back, Mrs. Jones is going to explain to me and all the rest of you what we mean…
Mrs. Jones 10:36 I’m gonna explain it?
Mr. Jones 10:38 Yeah.
Mrs. Jones 10:38 Oh, boy.
Mr. Jones 10:39
I may help you a little.
Mrs. Jones 10:40
Okay. Yeah, we just want to talk about how to be authentic and to acknowledge all facets of ourselves. Because I think life has gotten some of us out of balance lately, and we want to refocus.
Mr. Jones 10:55 Kind of lost our Mojo.
Mrs. Jones 10:56
Yeah, we’re gonna fix that.
Mr. Jones 10:57
All right. We’ll be right back. [Music] Mrs. Jones 11:19
Okay, well welcome back to segment two. Our topic tonight is be authentic – acknowledge all facets of you.
Mr. Jones 11:28
What’s a facet? Let’s just start there.
Mrs. Jones 11:32
Well, gosh, for women and men, it might be slightly different, but – so like for women, I’m thinking, okay, I’m a mom. I’m a homemaker. I am a wife. I am a career person. I’m a daughter. And you know, I have to get all of these things put in the big basket of life and sorted out, and I’m supposed to be good at all of them at the same time.
Mr. Jones 12:02 Got it.
Mrs. Jones 12:03
On demand. And the reality is that that is virtually impossible. I mean, just like today I was chatting with some lady friends and we were talking about like, there are these things actually that exist called rage rooms. Have you ever heard of them?
Mr. Jones 12:24 No.
Mrs. Jones 12:24
I don’t know what they are exactly. I think they’re basically a padded room where you can just go and absolutely, like, have a complete freak out. And it’s like a big padded room where you can’t hurt yourself, but you can literally, like, just take every frustration out on the world. I don’t know.
Mr. Jones 12:43 Maybe we need one.
Mrs. Jones 12:44
I know. I truly I could use a rage room every now and again. But, you know, I think it’s frustrating to try to live up to the expectation of being a good wife, a good mom, a good career person, a good homemaker, you know, a good daughter, a good aunt, or whatever, a good friend. And all of these things are supposed to be happening happening simultaneously. And then we have this health crisis, you know, thrust upon us that nobody could even imagine how to handle, you know. We’re all, like, learning as we go, on how this is supposed to work. And how do you keep all of these like balls in the air so to speak, as, you know, as we’re juggling life. It’s just really easy to let a ball drop, and honestly, when you think about it, as you’re homeschooling your kids, and you’re keeping groceries in your house, and you’re doing Zoom meetings for work, and this and that, and the other, your partner can actually get put on the back burner, and not only your partner but just yourself. And I think sometimes the relationship part, the sexual part of
ourselves, that’s the easiest facet of ourselves to kind of leave down there at the bottom of the basket.
Mr. Jones 14:13
So especially since we are in the midst of this pandemic, and we’re in survival mode, a lot of us are struggling with employment and, you know, finances. A lot of us have families that have moved back in. A lot of us have kids that were at college that are now at home. A lot of us have elementary and middle and high school kids that we’re homeschooling or they’re learning online because they’re not there.
Mrs. Jones 14:43
And they think the whole pandemic is your fault. You know, I just think there’s so many things going on all at once that we’ve never really had to deal with, in this way before.
Mr. Jones 14:58
So the thing that falls to the bottom of the barrel could be your priority with your partner, your sex life.
Mrs. Jones 15:06
Right. And it’s just – it’s important to be able to take a step back every once in a while and do a reset, you know, in the scheme of things, you know, nobody’s going to starve to death. You know, you might want to kill your kids, but you’re not going to kill your kids, they’re going to be fine. It’s weird and scary that they’re not in school, and they have no structure right now. Or at least not the structure that they’re used to. And we just all feel so responsible, and it’s scary to have a career where, like, the whole dynamic of your work relationships has changed, and it might make you feel a little insecure, and it makes you feel like you have to try harder or prioritize your career even more than you used to, to make sure that you’re still performing at the level that you need to to be successful. And all of these things are happening simultaneously. Sometimes that makes sexy fun seem not so much of a priority. And honestly, it’s probably not. But I guess what we want to talk about tonight is how to kind of just reset your perspective and realize that the world is really going to continue. And at the end of the day, this is all going to settle in somehow. And you and your partner are still gonna be sitting across the table from each other, like, hey, I remember you. And, you know, how do we keep that at least simmering until we have time to actually focus on each other again? So I guess what made me think about this is I was running about a month ago and I can’t run unless I listen to a podcast and Brené Brown has a new podcast out called Unlocking Us. I think she started it like early March. And she was doing a weekly for a while. I think she’s kind of settled into maybe every other week or something now, but you know, she is amazing. She’s done a couple incredible TED talks and her podcast does not disappoint. And some of the episodes she does on our own, but she’s been bringing a lot of really interesting people on to interview and talk about books they have written or different talks they have done on the speaking circuit or whatever.
But the one episode that really caught my attention is she interviewed an author called Glennon
Doyle. And she recently wrote a book called Untamed. And this interview just spoke to me so
deeply like I could have ended up running a marathon that day because I didn’t want to stop listening to what was going on in this conversation between Brené and Glennon. It was fascinating.
Mr. Jones 18:09
So much so that you made me listen to it.
Mrs. Jones 18:11
Well, not only did I make you listen to it, I made you listen to it after on one of our rare Saturday nights where we managed to sneak downstairs by ourselves, and I actually had lingerie on, and you know, we were in our basement, like at our little wet bar ready to go into our playroom. And I’m like, honey, I listened to most interesting podcast on my run today, and I could tell you were like, what the fuck, like we’re supposed to be like having sexy time. I had on like, this new really sexy bra and panty set. And I start telling you about this book and I know you didn’t want to listen but actually you did listen because it’s just it’s such an interesting story. And I’m gonna probably completely butcher this, but the book Untamed that Glennon Doyle wrote is kind of – the premise behind the whole book is this story about Glennon taking her daughter to the zoo. Her daughter was a fairly young child at this point in time, but they went to the zoo and they were watching a demonstration by some of the zookeepers with a cheetah. It was a young cheetah. And they were talking about how they were trying to tame this cheetah by introducing the baby cheetah to a Labrador Retriever, because a Labrador Retriever is obviously a domestic animal, and they’re one of the most docile, laid back domestic pets that you could have. So what they did is they partner this adult female Labrador Retriever with this baby, female cheetah, and the cheetah grew up with this Labrador and of course the Labrador is like completely lazy and laid back and whatever. And the cheetah kind of learned to model the behavior of the Labrador. So they were watching a demonstration about – they tied this like stupid little furry pink bunny on the back of the bumper of this Jeep, and they drove this Jeep around this like track and the Labrador of course, would chase the pink stuffed bunny because all Labradors like to chew up stuffed animals. So, you know, that was cool and all that, but then they did the exact same thing. They came back around. And instead of having the Labrador chase the bunny, they took this young cheetah and had her chase the bunny, and the cheetah chased the bunny just like the Labrador did, which is somewhat uncharacteristic of a cheetah because normally they’re not trainable. And so while the cheetah was with the Labrador and the cheetah was exhibiting the behaviors of a dog essentially. But then what Glennon noticed and her daughter noticed when they put the cheetah back in the cheetah area, the cheetah, the whole cheetah’s demeanor changed. Like the cheetah started acting like a cheetah again, like her shoulders started, like rearing back up and she was like prowling around like she wanted to escape and go back into the wild and actually hunt something instead of chasing a silly pink bunny that she never caught, because the lab never caught it. And the whole idea of trying to tame a cheetah that is just intrinsically a wild animal that’s meant to hunt and kill, was kind of crazy. I mean, it’s good in theory, but the cheetah is still a cheetah.
Mr. Jones 21:55
Yeah and then after she tells the story, she tells the story about, what if you were able to talk to this cheetah? The cheetah is in her cage. She’s prowling the perimeter of her cage, and she looks restless. And she asks her, you know, what are you thinking? And the cheetah says something’s not right.
Mrs. Jones 22:15
I just don’t feel like myself.
Mr. Jones 22:17
Yeah, I don’t feel like myself. There’s something more. I feel like I should be running. I feel like I should be hunting and killing. I feel like I should be sleeping, you know, in the plains, under the dark ink, you know, sky at night, but I’m in this cage. And she feels like that there’s something more but she resigns herself to say, well, this is a pretty good life. I’ll just stay. I’ll just be happy where I am.
Mrs. Jones 22:45
Right. I mean, all the cheetahs needs were being met. You know, she had food, she had water, she had security. So all of her basic needs were being met, but she still knew that there was something out there that she could couldn’t quite attain.
Mr. Jones 23:01
Right, and the cheetah in the story, the cheetah, she says the cheetah would ask me, you know, is it strange for me to feel this way and Glennon says, you’re a goddamn cheetah. You know, meaning you’re not a dog. You’re a goddamn cheetah. So I believe where you’re headed with this is that women and men are trained to do the things that you talked about before.
Mrs. Jones 23:29
Well, right. I mean, I could like totally go on a rant right now. You know, what does society do to us? You know, as women, we are taught to be these selfless creatures, because obviously, we’re designed to give birth and to be mothers. And that is our main purpose of life. You know, just according to like, I don’t know, like societal norms, I guess.
Mr. Jones 23:57
And at this point in time for those of you who know Brené Brown, this is where she said, and that’s a bunch of bullshit.
Mrs. Jones 24:01
Right. And you know, I think, you know, being a good mom, you put your kids first, being a good wife, you put your husband first, being a good daughter, you always defer to your parents, your parents are always right. You do what your parents say. You know, being a good employee, you know, you do what needs to be done. You know, this isn’t as prevalent as it used to be, but a lot of times a woman would work for less, you know, I’m coming out of the education field. And I
was always taught, well, if you love the kids, you’ll stay after school and tutor them for free, and you’ll do this and you’ll do that…
Mr. Jones 24:39
You’ll do whatever it takes.
Mrs. Jones 24:40
And I did because I loved my kids. You know, and I just think as women we just are taught to be givers and givers and givers. And that goddamn Cheetah has been taught to become a Labrador. And we should be okay with that if we’re a good wife and a good mother and a good daughter and a good employee and a good whatever.
Mr. Jones 25:08
Yeah, not only should you be satisfied with being selfless, but that should be your mantra.
Mrs. Jones 25:13
Yes. To be selfless. Yes.
Mr. Jones 25:17
And again, that’s, we’re discovering that’s bullshit. And as you were thinking, even though this podcast is primarily about a woman, and so it’s a woman’s story, it applies to men too.
Mrs. Jones 25:29
I, you know, when I was listening to Brené’s podcast, I was totally thinking this could apply to men. It is not gender specific.
Mr. Jones 25:37
And so what I was thinking about when I’m thinking about, okay, if society teaches a woman to be selfless, what do they teach a man? What does it teach a man? And in thinking back, you know, I’ve been taught that I’m to be the provider. I’m to be the breadwinner of the family. I’m supposed to earn the money. I’m supposed to grab the power. I’m supposed to climb the corporate ladder. I’m supposed to get a higher rank or a more prestigious title. I’m a competitor. I’m not supposed to let anybody else win. And then this last one on the list, I’ll let you add.
Mrs. Jones 26:16
Well, you’re supposed to be really good at fucking, and by fucking, I mean fucking, like, you know making love is a lot of give and take, but like when you watch like mainstream porn, I mean, in mainstream porn, like the guys just fuck. They’re like machines. Like… what am I trying to think of? …like the pneumatic piston, you know, boom, boom, boom, boom, until you get it done You’re accomplishing a goal, because there’s a finish line.
Mr. Jones 26:59
Right. So as we were talking about these things about society, and society gets the blame for a lot of things, but society includes our parents and our family and our friends and our pastors and our teachers and everybody that influences in life, and the culture and in the world that we live. What we’ve noticed about – and I think we’ve mentioned this before – what we’ve noticed about men and women in the lifestyle, however, is that women seem to be hesitant at first.
Mrs. Jones 27:30
Yeah, I was. I was like, there is just no way I’m gonna risk my marriage to do this. Like it’s not gonna be worth it.
Mr. Jones 27:39
Not just your marriage, but your reputation. You’re a good girl.
Mrs. Jones 27:43
Oh, wow. Yeah, I used to be. [Laughs]
Mr. Jones 27:46
Yeah, you can think back several years ago. And so while the women are being hesitant to engage or even consider it, the men are really interested and they’re leading the way. They’re almost pulling the wife or pushing the wife into it.
Mrs. Jones 28:04 Yeah, definitely.
Mr. Jones 28:05
…to a large degree. This is a generalization, but we hear this a lot, and we’ve experienced it. But then what happens is, once a couple gets into the lifestyle and gets a little bit of experience, the ladies seem to adapt quickly, and then they’re off to the races.
Mrs. Jones 28:25
Well, you know, like, I think I’m normally slow to make a decision. And like, I can totally go off on a tangent here and just talk about our trip next week. Like, how many days did I have that tab open on my computer in my browser for the stupid condo
Mr. Jones 28:43 I stopped asking about it.
Mrs. Jones 28:45
Well, finally, like, okay, so today’s Thursday, I think I booked it on Tuesday, and we’re leaving on Saturday. And we’ve been talking about this for a few days. So finally, like, on Tuesday, Mr.
Jones said, so I’m assuming we’re not going to the beach. Cuz you have not, like, hit the confirm button yet, although the tab was still open, and I would literally like refresh it like every few hours
to see if the condo – I was hoping that somebody would book the condo so that we couldn’t go. And I just couldn’t do it. I could not hit book now. And then once you bullied me into it, and I hit it, like, I’ve done nothing but pack. And like I think I’ve packed every piece of laundry I have and every sex toy and I’ve packed books, and I’ve downloaded books on my Kindle for the ones that I don’t have in paperback, and I am just like beyond excited to get away. But it took me forever to hit the confirm button on the computer. So, once I did, I’m like, hell yeah, let’s go.
Mr. Jones 29:54
Oh, so that’s how you’re finally gonna tie this back into what we’re talking about.
Mrs. Jones 29:58
Yes. I think a lot times women, I’m thinking, I can’t leave them home alone. Like, we could go down there and get sick. And then we’re going to come back and have to self isolate. Like we’re going to have to get COVID tested after we come home. Like I’m thinking of all these things that could go wrong. So like, six years ago, when we were talking about the lifestyle. I’m thinking, like, if we do this, like we could totally, like mess up our marriage. And we could end up fighting about this. And why are we doing this? It’s not worth it. Like, we already have a great marriage. Like, why would I want to do this? So it took me forever to say yes.
Mr. Jones 30:34 But once you did…
Mrs. Jones 30:35 Hell yeah. It was fun.
Mr. Jones 30:36 Yeah. Okay.
Mrs. Jones 30:37
Right. Just like, hell yeah, I’m ready to go to the beach now. It’s the exact same thing. I am very slow to decide.
Mr. Jones 30:45
Men, on the other hand, want to jump in and then once they get in the lifestyle…
Mrs. Jones 30:50
I know like your favorite expression is ‘book it’. I mean, you just want me to book it and make it so.
Mr. Jones 30:54
Yeah, but that analogy doesn’t work for me on vacations, so you’ll have to keep that just for you, because I want to go on the vacation and I enjoy the vacation. In the lifestyle man jump in, and then they become more hesitant. All of a sudden, they start seeing their wife with somebody
else. And there’s pressure to perform. And it’s not like the fantasy that they had in their head. It’s reality. So guys kind of step back a little bit.
Mrs. Jones 31:26
Yeah, all of a sudden, the shit gets real.
Mr. Jones 31:30
So what we were thinking about is what about – if a man becomes more hesitant, and a woman wants to go great guns then are you discovering your inner Cheetah?
Mrs. Jones 31:45 Yes.
Mr. Jones 31:45
And to a certain degree, am I discovering facets about my own self that are leading me to say, wait a minute, what am I doing? Why am I doing this? And it’s not what I thought it was going to be. I’m just not gonna come in here and fuck like a pneumatic hammer. So, you know, why is this?
Mrs. Jones 32:10
Well, you know, I mean, these are huge ridiculous generalizations but I’m gonna roll with it anyway. I think that we women tend to tamp down our sexuality to focus on becoming mothers and professionals. I think it’s getting much easier on the professional realm because you know, generations have passed and women do have a better voice in the workplace than we used to. But still I think women are very aware of having to prove themselves in the workplace. At the same time being an amazing mother and the cupcakes for the birthdays and all that garbage.
Mr. Jones 32:58
But when you got into the lifestyle, though, was it all of a sudden when you discovered this about yourself and you discovered – you started to rediscover your sexuality? Did it feel natural? Did it feel like that was something that…
Mrs. Jones 33:16
I think once you take the cupcakes and the work stuff and you put that in its proper place, and you say, okay, I’m allowed to actually spend a little time to focus on my sexuality either as an individual or my sexual relationship with my spouse or my partner. I think once you make that decision to take time for that and to bring that back into the forefront of your life, I think yeah, I think maybe women are just really good at once we make the decision, we’ve made the decision, and we’re gonna roll with it.
Mr. Jones 34:03
I’ll ask a different way. Do you feel like you’re tapping into how you are really wired?
Mrs. Jones 34:10
Yes. Because I think it was there all along. I think it’s just been put in a folder in the back of the file cabinet for a while. While other things have either had to or just generally because of societal norms become a priority.
Mr. Jones 34:27
Right. So it’s years of knowing there was more, but maybe accepting the status quo. And that you have to shed that guilt and the shame that came along with everything that you were taught.
Mrs. Jones 34:42
The guilt and the shame of…
Mr. Jones 34:44
…of discovering your sexuality, when you were trained – when you’re trained to be selfless, and all of a sudden your sexuality is a very selfish thing. You want to experience pleasure.
Mrs. Jones 34:55
Right. I mean, like, isn’t it funny that getting married and then starting a family is such a beautiful, like, pure thing to do. But you had to have some sex to like start that family. But nobody ever talks about that. But it’s there and and that passion for your partner is what creates this amazing family. But then once the family is created now all of that passion has to be like put back.
Mr. Jones 35:29
It’s stifled. Yeah, yes. And so you’re, I believe, to put a little more succinctly, I believe that women discover something about themselves and it feels so right. And it feels so good that they can move into the space quicker than men can.
Mrs. Jones 35:50
Yes. Because like I said, is once we noodle through something and we make a decision, we’ve made that decision. So okay. We’re going to give this a try. Let’s figure it out.
Mr. Jones 36:02
But just because you make a decision doesn’t mean that it’s going to work out, right?
Mrs. Jones 36:06 No, it doesn’t.
Mr. Jones 36:07
You get into this – What I’m getting at is you’re – the decision is one thing. But once you get into it, all of a sudden, you’re like, these are my people. This feels right. This is good. You’re discovering this parts of you that …were a cheetah and not a Labrador.
Mrs. Jones 36:25 Right.
Mr. Jones 36:26
Right. So for the men, though, you’re shedding a lot of what society has thrust upon you and men have to do the same thing. And so all that I said earlier about how men are trained – we’re struggling too, because we have to give up control. I mean, you’re with somebody else. I have to give up looking at the other man as a competitor, because we’re all about competition.
Mrs. Jones 36:56
It’s like, we’re coming at our sexuality from polar opposite ends. You’re having to dial it back, and we’re like, hell yeah, we can let our hair down and actually have some fun and not be judged.
Mr. Jones 37:12
Right. And because, you know, there’s – and then I realize there’s a pressure to perform, and I’ve never thought about that before. I just thought it would come naturally. Or I’m struggling with self confidence and self – because self confidence in the bedroom with another woman – self confidence has to come from within. When I’m at work, I’m playing a role. You know, but when I’m not playing that role all of a sudden it’s on me as a person. And I don’t know how to deal with that because I’m not behind a desk and a nameplate and a title and a career and all of these things that I’ve put that represent me are stripped away. And, I panic because I’m a guy …I believe that’s what happens to the man, and then they see their wives or their partners taking off, and that causes issues, then you spiral downward because of that.
Mrs. Jones 38:11
See, I think this is amazing, because all that gets stripped away, and you feel vulnerable. All that bullshit gets stripped away from a woman, and she’s like, Oh, my God, I’m free.
Mr. Jones 38:23
Right. That’s why I’m, well in our little sample size. That’s, that explains why women are much more comfortable in the lifestyle initially than men are.
Mrs. Jones 38:34
Yeah. I mean, once I make the decision, and I just let my hair down, I’m like, you know what? Here I am, I am who I am. And I want to have fun and yeah, I’ve had a couple kids and I ain’t perfect anymore. But I just want to have fun. And accept me for who I am or move on to somebody else. And it’s liberating for women.
Mr. Jones 38:58
And if I have to rely on myself and I’m in a brand new location or place and all those other things that protect me are gone. Those walls are gone. I look at my body, you know, I look at my penis. And…
Mrs. Jones 39:13 [Whispers] It’s really nice.
Mr. Jones 39:15
…but all of a sudden I’m thinking of it differently like, like you said before, we’re just trained to use it.
Mrs. Jones 39:25 [Whispers] To fuck.
Mr. Jones 39:26
Yeah, but not to connect with it…
Mrs. Jones 39:30
Exactly. That’s why I’m using the word fuck. I mean, the word fuck is just, like, mechanical.
Mr. Jones 39:36
Okay, so this, this takes a lot of – so I think that’s one thing that the lifestyle thrusts upon us. If you decide to come into the lifestyle you’re put into this position. You have to accept that – you have to be introspective and figure out what’s going on as a man and as a woman too and as a couple. So there there comes a point in time where you have to be introspective and you have to self – you have to examine yourself, and you have to start to understand, why is this going on? And then you have to understand that, okay, I was taught this, but now I’m seeing this. And there’s discomfort, moving away from what everyone else does and how they do it.
Mrs. Jones 40:20
Right. Because we all have this guilt and shame that has been like, beat into us from, you know, just being raised in society. And you know, this is right, and this is wrong, and you do this and you don’t do that. And you don’t ever think about this because, you know, that isn’t the what good people do. And that’s crazy, because we are all sexual beings.
Mr. Jones 40:48
Right. And this, this introspection can be, first of all, you don’t have to come into the lifestyle for this to happen. You can just be a curious person and you can deconstruct these things yourself. Or you can be encouraged to do it, you know, with your partner’s support, you know, your partner can come to you and say, hey, have you thought about this? Or have you thought about why you’re like this. And even in our community, we have ladies groups and men’s groups, and we’ve connected with lifestyle friends that you can also talk to about it, and they can encourage you and kind of walk you through this, or it can be brought on through engaging in the lifestyle, but I think there’s this tension, there’s this – once you do this for a while, and you start to feel like this is right and it’s natural, and it’s good, but at the same time, you’re being pulled in the other direction and you’re saying this is wrong, it’s bad, it’s evil, it’s sinful. It’s gonna ruin your
marriage. It’s adultery. And that tension, it pulls you back and forth. Until, for us, once we got to a certain point in time, and of course, it had something to do with us being outed, but we couldn’t go back. Because what we were being pulled into was more real and authentic than what we were being pulled away from.
Mrs. Jones 42:17
Right. It’s kind of sad to acknowledge that, but it’s true.
Mr. Jones 42:22
Right. So then, well, let me ask you, what have you learned about yourself? What are these facets about yourself, compared to what society has taught you, now that you’re a woman in the lifestyle and you’ve discovered these things about yourself? How is that different?
Mrs. Jones 42:42
Well, I think it’s helped me, like, just rebalance who I am, like, you know, what makes me happy, you know, what is it about myself, and what I provide to myself and to those around me that satisfies me and makes me feel like I’m contributing to, I guess not society, but to the people around me and I think what makes me feel self fulfilled is, I mean, I like to use my intellect. I find that gratifying. I find it stimulating. I mean, it makes me feel like I’ve accomplished something.
And then, at the same time, which I think is really cool, is I want to acknowledge my sexuality. I’m a sexual being. I like to feel attractive. I like to feel like you want me, and when we flirt with other couples that we’re friends with in the lifestyle, I like to know that, you know, that they miss me. I mean, it’s been months since we’ve seen anybody, and just to kind of like ping people every now and again and know that they miss me and still think I’m sexy like, I still want to be sexy, and then to take that and to blend that together to, to still be a good mom because I’ve got a household now that I’m not used to, and, and to still be a good daughter and daughter-in-law, and you know a sister-in-law and aunt and all these things that we are with our family right now that are really important. I like to blend all that together. There’s a time and a place for everything.
Mr. Jones 44:31
But there’s another – when you say blended together, there’s something else that comes to mind. It’s not just you balancing things, but a lot of people have the idea that to be a good parent you have to spend a lot of money on your kids, to spend a lot of time with your kids, and you have to be selfless. But what you’re teaching them when you’re more selfish with you and with us, is you’re modeling what we believe is a healthy life and healthy relationship.
Mrs. Jones 44:59
Right, because they need to see us prioritizing our relationship, so that they know what a good strong marriage looks like. Because, I mean, we’ve, I mean, we’ve had a few bumps in the road this year, to put it mildly. And as long as you and I stay on the same page, and we’re a united front, we can not only get through it together as a couple, but we can help our family, whoever it is, you know, get through it, as well. If you and I are out of kilter, and we’re not on the same
page, you know, with our own personal relationship, including our sexual relationship, it kind of wears on you and then it makes it harder to just intrinsically know what the other person is thinking so that you can make really good wise decisions together as a couple.
Mr. Jones 45:58
Right. Now, for me, from a guy standpoint, I can’t speak for all guys, but I can speak for me. And kind of a good illustration is going to Desire and taking your clothes off, because as a guy, if I’m standing behind my desk, if I’m standing behind my nameplate or my rank or my title, or the name on the door, or the salary that I make, or the clothes that I wear, the car that I drive, or the house that I live in, that’s all gone. And I’m naked in a pool. You know, I kind of have to be myself. So it’s taught me that to be my authentic self, I have to understand myself. And I have to be cautious. You know, I have to trust other people I have to – people – I really enjoy it when people trust me. I have to listen to other people. You know, I want to make another woman and another couple feel safe, you know, and secure, I don’t want to be a jerk. You know, I want to be, you know, I want to be interested in other people, I want to be the opposite of all of those other things. And it’s interesting because you still use the word confident, but it’s confident in a different way. And what I have found is that, that draws people in. All of these things that I’m taught to do as a man in order to be successful, sometimes pushes people away, or sometimes isolates myself, but what I’ve learned is fulfillment for me is, you know, being empathetic and listening to other people, getting to know other people, putting other people first and then appreciating the trust that they put in me, and those are, I think, qualities that help other people to be attracted to me. It’s not what I – you know, it’s not like being attractive and big muscles and, you know, all of the things that we’re taught that a man should be to attract a woman – isn’t necessarily the size if your dick. I mean, not your dick, but you know, we’re taught that…
Mrs. Jones 48:16
I have a really nice strap-on upstairs.
Mr. Jones 48:17
We’re taught that, you know, it has to be big, it has to be long. And it’s not all about that, and it takes guys a while – took me a while to really to understand that.
Mrs. Jones 48:29
Well, you know, I think what I find most intriguing about men is no matter what they do for a living, whatever they do, if they are passionate about it, and they can speak to it, and they feel like they’re making a difference in the world. That’s fascinating and, you know, like, and that has nothing to do with, like wearing a suit to work and being on the 19th floor of an office building or whatever. I think it’s so cool when a guy can have the nerve to ditch the corporate world, and the necktie and all that crap and start a business out of a shed in his backyard. Because he has a craft that he is gifted at. He’s been given this gift of being able to create something that other people desire. And whether that’s music or art, or you know, just some sort of craft that he can do and make a living at that. That’s fascinating. And that’s being authentic. That’s not being what society expects you to be with a tie on the nineteenth floor.
Mr. Jones 49:45
Well, it’s about giving up the idea of getting ahead, it all comes down to getting ahead, I’ve got to get ahead. I’ve got to get ahead. We, you know, more kids, a bigger house, a bigger car, got to get ahead. I’ve got to make more money – and that cycle that you put yourself in doesn’t allow you to think about quitting my job and starting my own thing. Because of what I would have to give up to do that.
Mrs. Jones 50:09
So how does the cheetah analogy apply to men then, I mean, like women are trained to be Labradors. But, you know, men, it’s almost like men are, is it the opposite for men? Like you’re, you’re trained to be like these hunter gatherers, but really, you know, you just want to be your authentic self, whatever animal in the wild that turns out to be.
Mr. Jones 50:30
Well, I mean, for me, this podcast has a lot to do with it, because, you know, I’m fulfilled by making a difference. I mean, I worked for the government. I’m a mission-focused person. When we were attending church for almost our whole lives, I was mission focused, I was serving. I wanted to make a difference. And so you know, being – and having this podcast, it’s the same thing. I want to make some sort of a difference. And in a way this is – bringing these microphones down in our basement is like starting a business in a shed. I mean, we took it upon ourselves to, you know, to do this not really understanding what it would turn into. We didn’t, you know, have a lot of plans for that but – and then you know, starting my own company is the same thing. You know, there’s a lot of fulfillment when I can’t blame failures on other people and I don’t have to take orders from other people. It’s all me. And so there’s a level of self confidence and there’s a level of gratification and fulfillment when your success – before it was just getting up out of bed, driving to work and doing a good job and coming home. Now it’s, my name is on this company, your name is on your company now. It’s your reputation. You know, it’s your work and so, you know, it’s the same thing in the lifestyle. You know, I’m discovering who I am as a person and want to be successful, but I also want to make a difference for, you know, and make things better for people. But this season that we’re in right now, has made that – it turned everything upside down.
Mrs. Jones 50:55
No kidding. I mean, I think that we have to be much more deliberate about the balance in our lives right now. Because things have been, like completely turned topsy turvy. I mean, that doesn’t mean that we’re like, losing our mojo or sex isn’t important. Or, you know, oh my gosh, we’re never gonna be able to go to another lifestyle party. Like, who knows? We don’t know what the future is gonna look like.
Mr. Jones 52:42
Well, you know, what this reminds me of is – we’ve talked about this before and other podcasters have talked about this before, is could you ever get out of the lifestyle?
Mrs. Jones 52:51
You know, and you and I have answered that question and said, yes, we could get out of the lifestyle in that we would stop having sex with other people, because we’re too old or whatever. But will we just sever all the friendships that we’ve made? I mean, that’s crazy. Absolutely not.
Mr. Jones 53:10
I think we’ve proven that out because it’s been March, April, May, June. It’s been four months. And we’ve stayed in touch with all of our lifestyle friends and our community. And we haven’t been with anybody but each other. Now, the other aspect of it is our personal lives are topsy turvy, too. So we haven’t spent as much time as you and I have – that you and I should be spending together, but that’s why we’re going to the beach next week, because I think it’s easy to let yourself fall back into that place where you’re going to be satisfied being selfless. You’re going to be satisfied just being a mom, you know, your default setting is safety, security, giving, making sure everyone’s safe, making money. You know, surviving, really, so when you’re in survival mode, unfortunately sex and relationship – sexual relationship goes to the bottom of the pile. So we have to be intentional.
Mrs. Jones 53:11
Right. And, you know, I think that you and I escaping next week is our way of being intentional. And luckily, we don’t have small children at home that we are responsible for. I mean, we do, but her mother’s here too. So you and I can afford to escape. But even if you do have small kids at home, just kind of rebalancing everything and setting some time aside for yourselves is important.
Mr. Jones 54:50
Yeah. And I think being a team in this, you know, supporting each other, encouraging each other, listening to each other, holding each other accountable. Allowing, you know, each other to be vulnerable, especially for guys, it’s hard for us to be vulnerable. You know, that’s really…
Mrs. Jones 55:09
Yeah, I freak out all the time, and you just have to take it and listen and fix it. But yeah, you don’t do that, you know, like you’ve gone to the doctor, and I’m like, you know, this could be due to stress, and I keep talking about the stress that you’re under, and you’re like, I don’t feel any stress. And I’m like, you’re crazy if you don’t feel any stress, you know, so you’re just wired to assume that you’re not feeling any stress and you’re actually amazing at letting things roll off your back. But, at the same time, we’re still going through some stuff, and I just think that because you’re a man you’re wired to just take it all and put it on your shoulders and put it on your shoulders, and like, fix it all. And that’s so unfair, that you feel the need to take care of all that.
Mr. Jones 56:00 Well, it is what it is.
Mrs. Jones 56:02
I know, but it, you know, it’s concerning, and I think these are the times where you have to come together as a couple and say, okay, now, you know, what burden are you carrying? What burden am I carrying? How can we – how can we balance the load so that we’re working as a team?
Mr. Jones 56:21
So I think our lifestyle friendships and relationships have helped us keep our sanity through this.
Mrs. Jones 56:26
Absolutely. There’s been some sexy pictures going back and forth. That’s for sure.
Mr. Jones 56:31 That’s true.
Mrs. Jones 56:32
Even though they’re thousands of miles away, they’re still really sexy.
Mr. Jones 56:35
We had a zoom meeting with some friends last weekend. It really got us going off into the right direction.
Mrs. Jones 56:41
Zoom meetings are really good foreplay.
Mr. Jones 56:43
Yeah, yeah. So I think the lesson here is that as Brené Brown said, you’re a goddamn cheetah.
Mrs. Jones 56:51
That’s right. Just acknowledge it and relish in it.
Mr. Jones 56:55
Yeah. And understand that if things feel out of sorts or out of whack, there’s a reason for that. And you have to be intentional to draw yourself out of that, especially with the world being upside down right now. The last thing that you’re going to think about is, we don’t have time for that. We don’t have time for that. And what we’ve discovered is you have to make time for that. We’re our own worst enemies if we don’t.
Mrs. Jones 57:21 Yep.
Mr. Jones 57:21
So we’ll come back from the beach. They’ll still be here for another few months. But hopefully, we’ll be recharged.
Mrs. Jones 57:27
Yeah. 70 to 90 days. Yeah, we got a countdown going.
Mr. Jones 57:33 Okay.
Mrs. Jones 57:34 All right.
Mr. Jones 57:35
Did we do your your topic justice?
Mrs. Jones 57:38
I think that we’ve all realized that we’re goddamn cheetahs. And we need to look inside and find out what facet of ourselves are we not acknowledging.
Mr. Jones 57:48
Yes. When we come back, last month we did a classic snapshot. We played a snapshot from our very first episode. And since we’ve been in survival mode again this month, we have solicited a snapshot from one of our listeners to read. But hopefully we’ll have one next time.
Mrs. Jones 58:12
It is worthy. It is definitely worthy.
Mr. Jones 58:14
It is worthy. Yeah. So when we come back, we’re gonna share a pretty sexy snapshot with you all. [Music]
Mrs. Jones 58:28
Okay. Well, welcome back to snapshots. I think Mr. Jones is gonna set this one up, and then I’m gonna actually read the good part.
Mr. Jones 58:37
Yeah, this is very well written. I just changed the names to protect the innocent. I’m gonna read the context and the backdrop and then you’re gonna read the actual snapshot. Okay. These are from a couple that listen to us that we haven’t met yet, but I think we have plans to meet pretty soon.
Mrs. Jones 58:58 Yes.
Mr. Jones 58:59
Yes. So thank you guys for this.
Mrs. Jones 59:00
But in person, How exciting!
Mr. Jones 59:01
Right. Send us a good snapshot and you’ll be able to meet us in person.
Mrs. Jones 59:05 That’s right. Dinner.
Mr. Jones 59:08
Okay, we’ve had two play sessions with another couple. Holy cow. They were amazing. Our first date was on a pontoon boat, several hours of rolling around on an egg crate foam mattress with sheets, under blankets and a beautiful cold night sky. That was the first time we had ever soft swapped. And the first time either of us had kissed or done anything with someone else to the opposite sex in almost 13 years. Our second play session was even better. Again hours of mind blowing play, that elusive four way connection was there. Looks aren’t everything, but man do my wife and I both have a little crush on the other wife. She has long beautiful red hair, soft blue eyes, light skin and long toned body. A little Southern accent but refined and incredibly sensual with a sexy vibe. Watching her with my wife makes me feel like I’ve come inside from a cold snowstorm to find hot burning fire and a warm stone hearth to rest on. Together they are smoking hot, warm, sensuous and inviting, and red. Phew. That red. My wife and I had both commented too on her perfume that somehow it just perfectly matched with her brand of sexy. The other husband is in shape, lighthearted and genuine. They are a very loving couple and my wife thinks he is wonderful. But as I said earlier, the other wife is a total smoke show. We are fans.
Mrs. Jones 1:00:38
Okay, well here’s the snapshot. A couple of weeks after our second play session with this couple, my wife and I are alone together on the back porch of a mountain house overlooking the mountains in the distance. We are naked already. My cock at attention as I’m sitting on a soft ottoman ready and waiting. We’ve been lightly playing for a few minutes but it is time to get down to business. She comes to me and while standing straddles me. She reaches down and pumps my cock then slowly guides it inside her as she sits on top of me. I feel her hips grind down into me as she wraps her legs around my body. I hold her around the waist and nuzzle her neck, kissing down towards her breasts. And then I smell it. It is a scent familiar to me yet foreign to my wife. What is it? Where had I smelled it before? I remember being confused at first and then it slowly dawned on me. I hesitated because what I was thinking was so naughty.
Does she really have on the other wife’s perfume? What if I say something and it’s not? What if I ask her and I’m wrong? Is she going to be hurt that I’m thinking about the other wife in the sexy
moment? When I look up, her eyes were smiling, and so was the rest of her face. I remember saying, no, you didn’t. She leaned into my ear and whispered, can you smell her? I want you to smell the other woman. As soon as she spoke these words, I knew I was going to come and come right away. I started to pump her faster, nearly losing control with excitement. She rode me, pulling my face into her chest so that I could smell her deeply. When I came, I pumped so hard into her that I stood up from the Ottoman with her legs wrapped around me. I could feel her breath shorten as an orgasm overtook her. She wrapped her body around mine, coming on my cock as we both gasped for breath in the mountain air. The smell of her was all around us, and the sounds of our pleasure drowned into the verdant summer foliage of the mountains behind.
Mr. Jones 1:02:45
We’re gonna have to get them to read that to us.
Mrs. Jones 1:02:47
I mean, they need to start writing, like, erotica. Wow.
Mr. Jones 1:02:55
Yeah, that’s pretty cool. I never thought about that. I’ll have to keep that in mind.
Mrs. Jones 1:02:59 I know.
Mr. Jones 1:02:59
Wearing the other woman’s perfume. Wow. Well, next month we’ll have a snapshot of our own.
Mrs. Jones 1:03:08 I hope so.
Mr. Jones 1:03:09
We’re gonna probably – we’ll get fired pretty soon if we don’t have our own snapshots.
Mrs. Jones 1:03:13
Well, we’re gonna go to the beach. And then we actually have a trip planned.
Mr. Jones 1:03:18 We do.
Mrs. Jones 1:03:19
Yes. So yeah, it’ll be a twofer. Mr. Jones 1:03:24
Please continue to email us. We love getting snapshots from others and we love reading them when we get the good ones and we love to hear your stories. So a lot of people think we’re inundated with emails or we don’t have the time, but really that’s what motivates us. That’s what gives us ideas of topics and so please keep the emails coming and you can contact me. My email address is email@example.com.
Mrs. Jones 1:03:53
And mine is firstname.lastname@example.org, and actually the whole facets of me came from a friend of mine in our community. She and I were private chatting, and she was talking about how she’s grown in the lifestyle and she was talking about the different facets of herself.
Mr. Jones 1:04:11
Yeah. So if you’re – well if you want to join our We Gotta Thing community, or if you want to contact us on our website, you can go to that at wegottathing.com, information about joining our community is there. And also you can click on the Contact Us button and I mentioned earlier,
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promo code that’s on our website. So please visit us and do that. Don’t forget you can also sign up for Double Date Nation or Kasidie or SDC on our website as well.
Mrs. Jones 1:04:50
That’s right. And you can also book a trip to Desire on our website. I think Desire actually might be opening up here soon. Thank goodness.
Mr. Jones 1:04:59
Definitely. You can follow us on Twitter @wegottathing.
Mrs. Jones 1:05:04
You can also find us on Pinterest,
Mr. Jones 1:05:06
or we have a presence on DDN, Kasidie and SDC. So thanks for listening. We are Mr. And Mrs. Jones and we gotta thing.
Mrs. Jones 1:05:14 What’s your thing?